tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post8623272752120184032..comments2023-12-18T11:10:18.390-05:00Comments on Shelly's Comic Book Shelf: I'm AnnoyedShellyShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14183404615688013084noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-18951135689501449632007-09-28T00:27:00.000-04:002007-09-28T00:27:00.000-04:00So we have a heroine who is forced to kill by circ...So we have a heroine who is forced to kill by circumstances and poor writing when we know that it could have easily been played non-lethally?<BR/><BR/>Note to Judd: when you steal ideas from other comics it's usually best to pick ones that aren't major plot points in recent company-wide events. It's also a good idea to rip off good ideas, not bad ones that everyone hated the first time around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-91693145521002201222007-09-26T16:17:00.000-04:002007-09-26T16:17:00.000-04:00If I don't like the new GA/BC book after the first...If I don't like the new GA/BC book after the first arc, I'll stop buying it. But Winick's actual comments in the interview didn't sound as bad to me as people made out. So, I'm giving him the first arc to show me one way or the other.<BR/><BR/>He's not my fav comics writer. Then again, neither are most of them.ShellyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14183404615688013084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-3142509684270229132007-09-26T14:48:00.000-04:002007-09-26T14:48:00.000-04:00As for boycotting Winick's books, I dunno. It migh...<I>As for boycotting Winick's books, I dunno. It might send the message that Dinah can't help support a book that doesn't have Oracle in it.</I><BR/><BR/>Or it might send the message that Dinah's fans are not going to tolerate a half-assed portayal of her character.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think there's something wrong with the mindset that Dinah can't be the focus of her own book or that she always has to be supporting someone else's title. And that's all she'd be in a Winick-written GA/BC book. Support. Eye-candy. The Girl Hostage.<BR/><BR/>Hell, even his grand idea for this opening arc isn't based around how cool it would be to see her coping with Ollie's death - it's about how Ollie's death is somehow more interesting than Dinah's life.<BR/><BR/>Time will tell, I guess. But right now, it looks like DC lost most of whatever potential audience they might have gotten to cross over from Birds of Prey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-28389561198839477382007-09-26T10:43:00.000-04:002007-09-26T10:43:00.000-04:00Well, after Denny O'Neill stopped writing Ollie, O...Well, after Denny O'Neill stopped writing Ollie, Ollie became a stereotype for many years until Mike Grell started writing him. And yet, I bought all those JLA issues faithfully because even tho Ollie had become an ass and Hawkman was as bad, I still enjoyed the comic.<BR/><BR/>As for boycotting Winick's books, I dunno. It might send the message that Dinah can't help support a book that doesn't have Oracle in it. I boycotted DC for 10 years (except for Titans which I boycotted just for 4 years) and they kept publishing anyway. I guess I was in the minority. Of one. ;)ShellyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14183404615688013084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-29524025382365105632007-09-26T10:33:00.000-04:002007-09-26T10:33:00.000-04:00Fair enough.Personally, I've seen enough to make t...Fair enough.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I've seen enough to make the judgement call that Winick is incapable of writing Green Arrow, Black Canary or indeed any other superhero in a capacity that can be considered competent much less good.<BR/><BR/>He turned Oliver Queen into a stereotypical limo liberal who tries to save the world by throwing money at problems and shouting slogans. <BR/><BR/>He's turned Dinah Lance into a helpless bimbo who can't put together a decent outfit much less lead the World's Finest superhero team.<BR/><BR/>And the only way DC is finally going to realize that this kind of thing is completely unacceptable is for us to stop buying Judd Winick's books. Plain and simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-58460764082351882922007-09-26T10:04:00.000-04:002007-09-26T10:04:00.000-04:00Sally, writers get gleeful about their stories. Th...Sally, writers get gleeful about their stories. That didn't bother me. I was gleeful, relieved, thrilled when a friend I write a shared universe with said it was all right to kill one of her characters, a boring female love interest for one of my guys.<BR/><BR/>And having read the interview for myself now, I'm not as upset. I might not be happy, but that's partly because I don't agree with all his choices, but mostly because I thought he had some good ideas that he executed poorly.<BR/><BR/>If Dinah was the one to be killed, while she was going to continue, one must assume, as chair of the JLA, then her death wouldn't have been long-lived, I'd think. So I'm thinking the same for Ollie.<BR/><BR/>And personally, I think Winick got it backwards. Ollie would be more angst-filled if Dinah died or he'd killed her than the other way around. He's the one who did all he could to prove he was worthy of her. She might've lost him once, and left him another couple of times, but she knows she can live without him because of that.ShellyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14183404615688013084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-7734819994189634412007-09-26T09:50:00.000-04:002007-09-26T09:50:00.000-04:00Matt, Judd Winick isn't my favorite writer and yes...Matt, Judd Winick isn't my favorite writer and yes, I'm not happy with him right now or his writing, but I don't think his interview statements are as bad as other people believe.<BR/><BR/>I'll be reading the series, at least the first arc, because I'm curious and because I realize I've read just the first chapter. I always give a story a fair shake. And sometimes, I read it all, even if it's not as good as it could be or I would want because I want to see how it ends. Like The Trials of Shazam. ;)<BR/><BR/>Not every writer is great and fortunately, I can afford to indulge my curiosity. I read a lot of average writers. Judd Winick is mired in that middle range. I just thought he was better than that and now I realize he isn't.<BR/><BR/>I think Picoult is an excellent writer, btw. She just sucked as a comic book writer.ShellyShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14183404615688013084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-86798368579042663202007-09-26T09:31:00.000-04:002007-09-26T09:31:00.000-04:00It's infuriating, isn't it? I was willing to give...It's infuriating, isn't it? I was willing to give Winick the benefit of the doubt, but not any more. And...and he's just so darned CHEERFUL about it!<BR/><BR/>Arrrgghhhh!SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-20391168025268499362007-09-26T09:14:00.000-04:002007-09-26T09:14:00.000-04:00If I might ask one question?If you don't like Wini...If I might ask one question?<BR/><BR/>If you don't like Winick that much, if you don't like the direction this new book is going in and if the nicest thing you have to say about Judd is that at least he isn't Jodi Jodi Picoult...<BR/><BR/>... why are you even considering buying the book in the first place?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15520935.post-28645015116008150402007-09-26T07:35:00.000-04:002007-09-26T07:35:00.000-04:00Here's my opinion on the wedding in a nutshell:htt...Here's my opinion on the wedding in a nutshell:<BR/><BR/>http://stars-and-garters.blogspot.com/2007/09/scene-from-making-of-green-arrowblack.htmlnotinthefacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12537680561821564347noreply@blogger.com